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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 13:22:52 GMT -8
Approximately one hour after Justin Carter posted a sarcastic comment on a Facebook thread, his life began to unravel. The first reaction occurred behind the scenes, in another country. The 18-year-old Carter had no way of knowing that, while he did grunt work at a drapery shop in San Antonio, a person in Canada saw his comments — posted 60 days after the Sandy Hook school-shooting tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut — freaked out and initiated a 24-hour chain reaction of insanity that would wind up with Carter facing 10 years in prison. Carter's comments were part of a duel between dorks, and may have had something to do with a game with strong dork appeal called League of Legends. But the actual details and context of the online exchange are, in the eyes of Texas authorities, unimportant. Prosecutors say they don't have the entire thread — instead, they have three comments on a cell-phone screenshot. ne of the comments appears to be a response to an earlier comment in which someone called Carter crazy. Carter's retort was: "I'm fucked in the head alright, I think I'ma SHOOT UP A KINDERGARTEN [sic]." Carter followed with "AND WATCH THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT RAIN DOWN." When a person writing under the profile name "Hannah Love" responded with "i hope you [burn] in hell you fucking prick," Carter put the cherry on top: "AND EAT THE BEATING HEART OF ONE OF THEM." (The Austin police officer who wrote up the subsequent report noted: "all caps to emphasize his anger or rage." ) That's when someone in Canada — an individual as yet unidentified in court records — notified local authorities. Because Carter's profile listed him as living in Austin, the Canadians sent the tip to the Austin Police Department. Along with a cell-phone screenshot of part of the thread and a link to Carter's Facebook page, the tipster provided this narrative: "This man, Justin Carter, made a number of threats on Facebook to shoot up a class of kindergartners. ... He also made numerous comments telling people to go shoot themselves in the face and drink bleach. The threats to shoot the children were made approximately an hour ago." The information was forwarded to the Austin Regional Intelligence Center, an information clearinghouse for law enforcement agencies in Travis, Hays and Williams counties. Center personnel ran Carter's name, found either a driver's license or a state ID card and discovered that the address listed was "within 100 yards" of Wooldridge Elementary School. Based on a Travis County prosecutor's belief that there was probable cause to charge Carter with a third-degree terroristic threat — which carries a penalty of two to 10 years — a judge issued an arrest warrant. U.S. marshals traced Carter to the drapery shop in San Antonio, where he worked, and handcuffed the cherub-faced, brown-haired teen. Until that point, his only brush with the law was a temporary restraining order two years earlier. After his booking into the Bexar County Jail, authorities discovered that he actually lived in New Braunfels — Comal County. After his transfer there, his bond was increased from $250,000 to half a million dollars. According to Carter's attorney, Don Flanary, the 18-year-old suffered brutal attacks in the Comal County Jail during the four months he was held there. Police records allege that, upon being booked into Bexar County Jail, Carter stated, "I guess what you post on Facebook matters." He had no idea. link
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Post by Willing Sniper on Feb 13, 2014 13:48:48 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 14:00:57 GMT -8
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Post by Willing Sniper on Feb 13, 2014 16:00:30 GMT -8
Comments have consequences. I bet he's saying You mistook my meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 21:31:31 GMT -8
God forbid any reads our posts!
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 15, 2014 3:41:00 GMT -8
this is simply another case of idiots being afraid of their own shadow, and imbeciles in law enforcement being too stupid to know the difference between fantasy and reality
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:16:54 GMT -8
this is simply another case of idiots being afraid of their own shadow, and imbeciles in law enforcement being too stupid to know the difference between fantasy and reality Do you suppose that perhaps some of the fault lies with the parents? Who else can teach these young people that what is on the internet is there for EVERYONE to see and NEVER goes away. It is serious to make such threats even in jest. I can't tell you how many times I have had young applicants come in for a job and when I google their name I get a facebook link that is very telling. One young lady had pictures of herself taking hits on a bong and in various states of undress. Stupidity, plain and simple.
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 15, 2014 14:31:11 GMT -8
this is simply another case of idiots being afraid of their own shadow, and imbeciles in law enforcement being too stupid to know the difference between fantasy and reality Do you suppose that perhaps some of the fault lies with the parents? Who else can teach these young people that what is on the internet is there for EVERYONE to see and NEVER goes away. It is serious to make such threats even in jest. I can't tell you how many times I have had young applicants come in for a job and when I google their name I get a facebook link that is very telling. One young lady had pictures of herself taking hits on a bong and in various states of undress. Stupidity, plain and simple. absolutely, all the way around. however, the parents failing to teach the kid in no way relieves him/her of the responsibility. if the parents had never said a word about it, it doesn't matter. fool's stupidity is in the news everyday. there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of examples. anyone who doesn't learn from other fools being stupid is even more stupid. on another note, you, colloquially, as an employer, have NO right looking at anyone's facebook in connection with the hiring process
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 15:55:25 GMT -8
Do you suppose that perhaps some of the fault lies with the parents? Who else can teach these young people that what is on the internet is there for EVERYONE to see and NEVER goes away. It is serious to make such threats even in jest. I can't tell you how many times I have had young applicants come in for a job and when I google their name I get a facebook link that is very telling. One young lady had pictures of herself taking hits on a bong and in various states of undress. Stupidity, plain and simple. absolutely, all the way around. however, the parents failing to teach the kid in no way relieves him/her of the responsibility. if the parents had never said a word about it, it doesn't matter. fool's stupidity is in the news everyday. there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of examples. anyone who doesn't learn from other fools being stupid is even more stupid. on another note, you, colloquially, as an employer, have NO right looking at anyone's facebook in connection with the hiring process I disagree, if your fb account is open to the public don't be foolish enough to not expect potential employers to check it out.
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Post by domic on Feb 15, 2014 16:57:49 GMT -8
anything you put out there on the newfangled interweb is subject to anyone who goes alookin for it. Employers are fools if they don't do a google search.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 23:50:16 GMT -8
anything you put out there on the newfangled interweb is subject to anyone who goes alookin for it. Employers are fools if they don't do a google search. People just don't get it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 1:06:24 GMT -8
this is simply another case of idiots being afraid of their own shadow, and imbeciles in law enforcement being too stupid to know the difference between fantasy and reality One young lady had pictures of herself taking hits on a bong and in various states of undress. Stupidity, plain and simple. Do you still have the young ladies link to pass on?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 1:08:14 GMT -8
One young lady had pictures of herself taking hits on a bong and in various states of undress. Stupidity, plain and simple. Do you still have the young ladies link to pass on? I will pm you. Lol!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 1:10:12 GMT -8
Hmmmm thank you, i wait with baited breath and tissues, LMFAO!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 2:01:19 GMT -8
This next generation are living out their entire lives online. So employers will just have to get over it or have no one to hire. There will be reams of info on everyone us included. So I don't care. I am going to write what I think and use the Internet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 2:26:51 GMT -8
Obama is the greatest President ever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 2:28:15 GMT -8
See how I put that out there? Now if the State tries to execute me I have backup. Lol!
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 16, 2014 2:54:12 GMT -8
absolutely, all the way around. however, the parents failing to teach the kid in no way relieves him/her of the responsibility. if the parents had never said a word about it, it doesn't matter. fool's stupidity is in the news everyday. there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of examples. anyone who doesn't learn from other fools being stupid is even more stupid. on another note, you, colloquially, as an employer, have NO right looking at anyone's facebook in connection with the hiring process I disagree, if your fb account is open to the public don't be foolish enough to not expect potential employers to check it out. oh, i know that they do. the point is that they have no right to. as long as it's not illegal, what you do away from work is none of the employer's business
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 16, 2014 2:56:28 GMT -8
anything you put out there on the newfangled interweb is subject to anyone who goes alookin for it. Employers are fools if they don't do a google search. true, and false. obviously, once you put something out there, it is there forever. only the very stupid put anything on the internet that they wouldn't tell their mother. nonetheless, what they won't tell their mother is none of an employer's concern
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 8:23:26 GMT -8
Who cares? Eventually there will be so much out there on every one that they won't be able to wade through the volume of info. And someone who doesn't well who wants to hire someone who isn't really online anyway. So there are somr drunken frat party pics. Who the hell cares?
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Post by domic on Feb 16, 2014 14:58:19 GMT -8
I think the point is that some people are train wrecks as employee's and you may not know until you hire them and let it play out at the job, but, now with a quick google search you may find a lot of info that is NOT the same for everyone, and helps with the hiring decision.
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Post by domic on Feb 16, 2014 15:03:46 GMT -8
anything you put out there on the newfangled interweb is subject to anyone who goes alookin for it. Employers are fools if they don't do a google search. true, and false. obviously, once you put something out there, it is there forever. only the very stupid put anything on the internet that they wouldn't tell their mother. nonetheless, what they won't tell their mother is none of an employer's concern I disagree, thief's probably don't tell their mother that they are bilking their work for $20k and selling goods out of their trunk that they pilfered from company shelves, or that they show up drunk every other morning and destroy company client relations on a regular basis until they get fired. Sexual proclivities and recreational drug use, like most aspects of personal life, are not much of an employers concern until they get in the way of work, but if you feel compelled to put it out there on facebook then you may reap what you sow.
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Post by whisker on Feb 16, 2014 15:53:01 GMT -8
My mother used to tell me, as a child, that her mother told her as a child, that you should never write anything that you would not like to see displayed in the market square. That was way before there was any such thing as internet. I think that old piece of wisdom still holds today. It impressed me, as a child, and I still live by it today.
To say that it's none of employers business, as to what you do in your private life, sound immature to me. If it's a matter of choosing someone that will prove reliable in doing the job, and there are 800 to 1,000 applying for that job - of course they are going to make their choice based on a short-list - and what people write and post as pics of themselves on the internet, of course is going to influence that.
As regards Justin Carter's comments re shooting up a kindergarten school, the authorities, IMO, would have been negligent, if they did not follow that up. Many of those who have carried out school shootings, might have left just one or two comments of that kind behind, that were never followed up at the time - before the shootings happened. Also, the fact that Carter had had a restraining order put on him while still a teen, shows that he was one to be feared. I hope he's learned his lesson.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 16:14:29 GMT -8
Well your mother gave good advice regarding writing things down. But now in the age of Big Brother the very thoughts in our head aka text or using phones give the illusion of privacy but all of that info can/is recorded and digitized. There are hidden and open cameras literally everywhere. So it is endemic. So fir me I am just not going to worry about it.
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 17, 2014 9:29:20 GMT -8
true, and false. obviously, once you put something out there, it is there forever. only the very stupid put anything on the internet that they wouldn't tell their mother. nonetheless, what they won't tell their mother is none of an employer's concern I disagree, thief's probably don't tell their mother that they are bilking their work for $20k and selling goods out of their trunk that they pilfered from company shelves, or that they show up drunk every other morning and destroy company client relations on a regular basis until they get fired. Sexual proclivities and recreational drug use, like most aspects of personal life, are not much of an employers concern until they get in the way of work, but if you feel compelled to put it out there on facebook then you may reap what you sow. for sure, there are some fools in the world that just need shooting. idiots who are so abjectly stupid that they brag about crimes on the internet are obviously in that category sexual proclivities are not an employers business, but, since recreational drug use is a crime, that is.
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 17, 2014 9:34:05 GMT -8
My mother used to tell me, as a child, that her mother told her as a child, that you should never write anything that you would not like to see displayed in the market square. That was way before there was any such thing as internet. I think that old piece of wisdom still holds today. It impressed me, as a child, and I still live by it today. To say that it's none of employers business, as to what you do in your private life, sound immature to me. If it's a matter of choosing someone that will prove reliable in doing the job, and there are 800 to 1,000 applying for that job - of course they are going to make their choice based on a short-list - and what people write and post as pics of themselves on the internet, of course is going to influence that. As regards Justin Carter's comments re shooting up a kindergarten school, the authorities, IMO, would have been negligent, if they did not follow that up. Many of those who have carried out school shootings, might have left just one or two comments of that kind behind, that were never followed up at the time - before the shootings happened. Also, the fact that Carter had had a restraining order put on him while still a teen, shows that he was one to be feared. I hope he's learned his lesson. what your mother told you is even more apropos today than it was then. back then, it could be posted in the market square, and perhaps several hundred people would see it. now, it's posted on the internet and millions upon millions can see it. a person's private life is no indicator of their professional life. i know a couple of girls who are ultra conservative in dress and everything else when they are at the office. when they are not at the office, they are anything but. as long as the person does the job, what they do when they are not on the job, as long as it is not illegal, is NOONE's business
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Post by Willing Sniper on Feb 17, 2014 9:38:33 GMT -8
My dear sweet Italian mother. Said to me never speak serious business on the phone, and for god's sake don't write anything down! 'We'don't do that! Her father was a made man. She used far more expletives when imparting that wisdom, but I thought I would spare you some of her more colorful vernacular.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 9:41:09 GMT -8
My mother used to tell me, as a child, that her mother told her as a child, that you should never write anything that you would not like to see displayed in the market square. That was way before there was any such thing as internet. I think that old piece of wisdom still holds today. It impressed me, as a child, and I still live by it today. To say that it's none of employers business, as to what you do in your private life, sound immature to me. If it's a matter of choosing someone that will prove reliable in doing the job, and there are 800 to 1,000 applying for that job - of course they are going to make their choice based on a short-list - and what people write and post as pics of themselves on the internet, of course is going to influence that. As regards Justin Carter's comments re shooting up a kindergarten school, the authorities, IMO, would have been negligent, if they did not follow that up. Many of those who have carried out school shootings, might have left just one or two comments of that kind behind, that were never followed up at the time - before the shootings happened. Also, the fact that Carter had had a restraining order put on him while still a teen, shows that he was one to be feared. I hope he's learned his lesson. what your mother told you is even more apropos today than it was then. back then, it could be posted in the market square, and perhaps several hundred people would see it. now, it's posted on the internet and millions upon millions can see it. a person's private life is no indicator of their professional life. i know a couple of girls who are ultra conservative in dress and everything else when they are at the office. when they are not at the office, they are anything but. as long as the person does the job, what they do when they are not on the job, as long as it is not illegal, is NOONE's business From where I sit, with numerous applicants applying for one position, I use everything I can to check out the character of each person. I am not the only employer who uses Google as a means of vetting out perspective employees. The fact of the matter is that if you don't want people to see it, don't put it out there. Pretty simple actually.
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Post by whisker on Feb 17, 2014 13:18:08 GMT -8
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Post by ❀rabbit❀ on Feb 17, 2014 18:25:52 GMT -8
As well it should, who jokes about shooting up a kindergarten class?
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