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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:05:05 GMT -8
The issue with cyber bullying versus bullying when we were kids is firstly the anonymity of it. On social network sites the bullies create anonymous profiles so the victim receives the poisonous messages or toxic postings about them and they don't know who is doing it. The bullies also create humiliating profiles that look like the victim's profile and post nasty stuff on the victims behalf to hurt, belittle, humiliate them or to get them into trouble. It's not as simple as blocking them, they just come back as another user name and keep at it. The anonymity they can hide behind means that it could be their own supposed best friend using the secrets of friendship against them - it's a haven for all thet nasty spite and bile that young and immature kids and teenagers are capable of. Consequently, the victim becomes a victim in real life as well as online because they are walking around school not knowing who their bully is and also humiliated because everyone at school has read embarassing postings that they are supposed to have made so they are constantly defending themselves and become more and more isolated - it really is a huge problem. www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/Is-Cyber-Bulling-For-Real-Why-Not-Turn-Off-The-Computer-Or-Block-The-Jerk-When-I-Was-A-Kid-We-Had-To-Run-Or-Fight/958641 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:22:11 GMT -8
I think if my child was complaining of being bullied online, I'd turn off the computer.
Problem solved?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:25:22 GMT -8
I think if my child was complaining of being bullied online, I'd turn off the computer. Problem solved? You can do that at home, but that only solves the problem "temporarily." They have to see those kids at school the next day as well. I think cyber bullying is for real, it's alive and it's out there. I would turn off my computer and so would you because we're adults. |
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Post by Willing Sniper on Feb 24, 2013 10:35:44 GMT -8
Ask any admin how many times they have had to quell a situation between posters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 14:18:32 GMT -8
Calling someone a name isn't bullying them,. dumbass. :P
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 16:31:06 GMT -8
Probably if it was in that context Well. How do we really know how the person we are speaking to online is coping with constant insults ? I suppose that online bullying is essentially trolling of a person. |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 24, 2013 18:33:04 GMT -8
I think kids can be bullied through the internet, yes. The internet serves as an anonymous way to "spread the word" about the victim. Those involved know the victim in the "real" world, so they can take the nastiness into the victims everyday life. They can gather a gang together to harass and even physically hurt the victim. While you can monitor your child's internet use at home, there's no way you can do so when the child is at school, a friend's, or somewhere else where internet is available.
I don't believe adults can be bullied on anonymous message boards. The little "X" in the upper right corner of your screen gives you total control. Click it and the bully goes away. If you've got enough self control, you can just ignore the heck out of the jerk. They don't know who you are, or where you are unless you've let that information out. The chance of the person being your neighbor, or even in the same area is pretty low. It's just not the same as the bullying that takes place on the social networking sites and adults should be far more resourceful than can be expected of kids.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 8:40:19 GMT -8
I think kids can be bullied through the internet, yes. The internet serves as an anonymous way to "spread the word" about the victim. Those involved know the victim in the "real" world, so they can take the nastiness into the victims everyday life. They can gather a gang together to harass and even physically hurt the victim. While you can monitor your child's internet use at home, there's no way you can do so when the child is at school, a friend's, or somewhere else where internet is available. I don't believe adults can be bullied on anonymous message boards. The little "X" in the upper right corner of your screen gives you total control. Click it and the bully goes away. If you've got enough self control, you can just ignore the heck out of the jerk. They don't know who you are, or where you are unless you've let that information out. The chance of the person being your neighbor, or even in the same area is pretty low. It's just not the same as the bullying that takes place on the social networking sites and adults should be far more resourceful than can be expected of kids. MOO I think the internet bully can be an issue if they have personal information about you and post it online. Other than that, ignore or avoid works. |
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Post by ♬ pkbucko ♬ on Feb 25, 2013 9:37:38 GMT -8
The whole cyber bullying thing makes me wince. It's one of those things that seems impossible. I guess it's not impossible with the kids.
But for adults, if they claim to be cyber bullied then they need to grow the hell up.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 15:28:07 GMT -8
Is stalking a type of bullying ? There is a victim. To me, it depends on whether you mean actual, physical stalking or what's often called stalking on message boards. If someone gets your personal information and tracks you down to physical location, then comes to that location to harass you I'd consider that stalking. I don't consider someone bugging you on message boards to be stalking. Kids don't have the experience to know they can just hit the "little red X" on the browser, so they can certainly be traumatized. Adults should have more sense, IMO. |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 15:31:02 GMT -8
I think kids can be bullied through the internet, yes. The internet serves as an anonymous way to "spread the word" about the victim. Those involved know the victim in the "real" world, so they can take the nastiness into the victims everyday life. They can gather a gang together to harass and even physically hurt the victim. While you can monitor your child's internet use at home, there's no way you can do so when the child is at school, a friend's, or somewhere else where internet is available. I don't believe adults can be bullied on anonymous message boards. The little "X" in the upper right corner of your screen gives you total control. Click it and the bully goes away. If you've got enough self control, you can just ignore the heck out of the jerk. They don't know who you are, or where you are unless you've let that information out. The chance of the person being your neighbor, or even in the same area is pretty low. It's just not the same as the bullying that takes place on the social networking sites and adults should be far more resourceful than can be expected of kids. MOO I think the internet bully can be an issue if they have personal information about you and post it online. Other than that, ignore or avoid works. I've never been an advocate of handing out personal information on the internet for that very reason. We really don't know the folks with whom we interact here, for the most part. Sometimes, meet-ups are arranged and people do come to know one another, but that's not a common occurrence. Most of the time, we're talking to virtual strangers and it's best, IMO, to keep that in mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 15:48:15 GMT -8
To me, it depends on whether you mean actual, physical stalking or what's often called stalking on message boards. If someone gets your personal information and tracks you down to physical location, then comes to that location to harass you I'd consider that stalking. I don't consider someone bugging you on message boards to be stalking. Kids don't have the experience to know they can just hit the "little red X" on the browser, so they can certainly be traumatized. Adults should have more sense, IMO. If the stalking impedes your enjoyment of a forum and the stalker is very manipultative. One could view that as a type of bullying if you are forced to or have to involuntary leave the said forum. Pyschological stalking can affect all age groups. True, I myself experienced a sort of stalking on another board. I left that board, deleted my account. Problem solved. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 15:51:14 GMT -8
That's exactly what the stalker wanted. No, I took their fun away with me. :D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 15:52:55 GMT -8
Well... there is that.  Win Win |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 15:57:40 GMT -8
Stalking is fearful for the one being stalked. More so in real life, but as computer interactions become ever more real, stalking could become ever more fearful for the ones being stalked. As for IP addresses. Everytime you post a picture, there is a way of tracking your IP address. I make it my business to find people dom. :D my bad? If I can do it anyone can. So be careful. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:00:24 GMT -8
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:02:31 GMT -8
To me, it depends on whether you mean actual, physical stalking or what's often called stalking on message boards. If someone gets your personal information and tracks you down to physical location, then comes to that location to harass you I'd consider that stalking. I don't consider someone bugging you on message boards to be stalking. Kids don't have the experience to know they can just hit the "little red X" on the browser, so they can certainly be traumatized. Adults should have more sense, IMO. If the stalking impedes your enjoyment of a forum and the stalker is very manipultative. One could view that as a type of bullying if you are forced to or have to involuntary leave the said forum. Pyschological stalking can affect all age groups. That, to me, is where self-control comes into play. If someone is following me from thread to thread and interjecting disturbing comments (Yes, it has happened), it doesn't take long for me to recognize it. At the point I do, that individual ceases to be read. If I don't read that person's posts, what that person says cannot impact me in the slightest. If I don't react, which I don't, that person gets no gain from his/her antics. If these jerks don't get a reaction, they aren't fed. If you don't feed them, they'll find someplace else to beg for attention. |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:04:11 GMT -8
Just knowing your IP address won't tell anyone very much, Dom. If the person bothering you knows your real name, or other pertinent details about you, that could be a problem. That's why we need to be protective of such information on the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:05:53 GMT -8
What if these stalkers are expert manipulators and manage to manipulate the Admin to go against you ? Hopefully your admin isn't that gullible. |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:06:03 GMT -8
OMG, Apple! That rabbit looks like one my cats have. This one, of course, is less tattered than theirs. They've got a rabbit and a lamb. They sacrifice the lamb more often than the rabbit. :-S
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:06:45 GMT -8
OMG, Apple! That rabbit looks like one my cats have. This one, of course, is less tattered than theirs. They've got a rabbit and a lamb. They sacrifice the lamb more often than the rabbit. :-S lol ! Poor lamby! |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:08:09 GMT -8
If someone is able to manipulate the Admin of a message board, and that Admin has no more on you than your IP and your email, you're fine. Change your email address. The IP they get will probably give them, at best, the location of your ISP. Not much fun in that. Now, if the Admin has your personal information, that was your first mistake.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:10:08 GMT -8
People do give a lot away inadvertantly on chat sites. Once a stalker has your IP and some revealing posts, the pyscho could be on your doorstep the next day. That's why most decent people will tell you to keep your personal information personal, and to make it a point to do so. I don't want to know people's personal information. If I see it show up anywhere, I'll let that person know to remove it immediately. If it's on a site I'm working, I'll remove it myself and caution the person against putting it out here. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:10:21 GMT -8
People do give a lot away inadvertantly on chat sites. Once a stalker has your IP and some revealing posts, the pyscho could be on your doorstep the next day. It will take more than a day for me to get you your place. Don't worry, I'll check the shed first. On a serious note, I know first hand how easy it is to find people through their IP address and whatever clues they give simply by chatting on line. A lady I used to post with was astounded when I told her I knew where she worked. And I was right. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:13:22 GMT -8
We all give out far more information out than we really should. Answer the door....Its cold out here. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:14:43 GMT -8
I knew somebody that was able switch on another posters webcam and post that persons image on a thread. Really? wow! |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:14:45 GMT -8
You've just got to be very, very careful. On another board, there's a poster I don't care for. This poster posted a tidbit of information that worried me. I followed it up and found the names of his wife and children, his address, his telephone number, and a few other choice bits of data. I PMd him and let him know it was there and that he'd better remove it if he didn't want trouble to come knocking. I don't know why in the heck he was shocked! HE put it out there!
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:17:05 GMT -8
I knew somebody that was able switch on another posters webcam and post that persons image on a thread. I'd read about that little trick, Dom. One should keep one's computer secure. Being behind a router helps, as does having strong passwords. There are things we can do to increase our security. That responsibility is ours. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 16:17:30 GMT -8
You've just got to be very, very careful. On another board, there's a poster I don't care for. This poster posted a tidbit of information that worried me. I followed it up and found the names of his wife and children, his address, his telephone number, and a few other choice bits of data. I PMd him and let him know it was there and that he'd better remove it if he didn't want trouble to come knocking. I don't know why in the heck he was shocked! HE put it out there! Yes, funny eh? People just don't realize. There was a msn poster that posted about an incident that happened in her town and how she was involved. I looked up the incident on line and got her name and the city she lives in. Pretty easy. |
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 25, 2013 16:20:14 GMT -8
You've just got to be very, very careful. On another board, there's a poster I don't care for. This poster posted a tidbit of information that worried me. I followed it up and found the names of his wife and children, his address, his telephone number, and a few other choice bits of data. I PMd him and let him know it was there and that he'd better remove it if he didn't want trouble to come knocking. I don't know why in the heck he was shocked! HE put it out there! Yes, funny eh? People just don't realize. There was a msn poster that posted about an incident that happened in her town and how she was involved. I looked up the incident on line and got her name and the city she lives in. Pretty easy. Yep. It's very easy to do, but only if the person posting isn't using their head. I live in western South Carolina. That's a pretty big area. Even if someone were to figure out the town, somehow, it's a pretty good-sized town, too. |
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