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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 15:05:19 GMT -8
I love Bill Cosby, why did everyone wait until he was an old man to come out with these rape allegations. There are plenty of reasons why. Cosby is an icon, a living legend, going up against him would likely mean the end of your career, add to that you would most likely be discredited by people such as yourself who don't wish to believe this horrible accusation could be true. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 14:47:30 GMT -8
Then again, it could just be that they're dazzled by the sight of dollar signs and hope to get 'compensation' for what they claim happened.
There's rape and sexual coercion and there's also false accusations.
I'm suspending my judgement but my gut instinct is that most of these girls slept with Cosby quite willingly and just see a chance to make a killing.
Rather like the Ched Evans case in Britain.
And Emma, I notice you didn't respond to my post where I gave a number of links about just some of the most obviously unjust aspects of feminism.
I believe in fairness for all; feminists believe in giving women a privileged status. Theirs is every bit as much a case of gender sexism as the lunatics of IS and their ilk.
Female chauvinism is no more attractive than male chauvinism.
Nor is the professional victimhood that feminists keep telling us women to pretend to be.
In my life I've had more than enough bad things happen that I could easily play the victim card but I never do.
Women are strong and feminism teaches us to be weak.
It's every bit as oppressive and gender hating as male chauvinism.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 12:23:51 GMT -8
Then again, it could just be that they're dazzled by the sight of dollar signs and hope to get 'compensation' for what they claim happened. There's rape and sexual coercion and there's also false accusations. I'm suspending my judgement but my gut instinct is that most of these girls slept with Cosby quite willingly and just see a chance to make a killing. Rather like the Ched Evans case in Britain. And Emma, I notice you didn't respond to my post where I gave a number of links about just some of the most obviously unjust aspects of feminism. I believe in fairness for all; feminists believe in giving women a privileged status. Theirs is every bit as much a case of gender sexism as the lunatics of IS and their ilk. Female chauvinism is no more attractive than male chauvinism. Nor is the professional victimhood that feminists keep telling us women to pretend to be. In my life I've had more than enough bad things happen that I could easily play the victim card but I never do. Women are strong and feminism teaches us to be weak. It's every bit as oppressive and gender hating as male chauvinism. Some of the women are very credible and as of yet I see no monetary value attached to these claims. On another note ladylinda, I did look at some of your links. I am not one that believes everything I read as temperance is key when looking at both sides of a claim. Admittedly, and most obviously, my POV stems from my own life experiences and those of my colleagues and family. I do see chauvinism and misogyny practiced in business and in social settings disturbingly often. Having said that, I will agree that men are being portrayed in the media as social buffoons on a regular basis. Feminism is not weak, feminism is the reason I can vote, hold a job of power and be free to express myself. If you wish to associate feminism as a negative and see only that which is negative, perhaps an offshoot of the original movement, that is your prerogative. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 14:21:02 GMT -8
I think I'm going to have to post (on a new thread) the reasons why I regard feminism as a creed of hate and as a doctrine that disempowers everyone.
As for Cosby, I wouldn't put anything past a so-called celeb but I also know that women lie about rape. As I said, my husband was falsely accused of raping a woman at a time when he was with me and six other friends. The woman concerned made the allegation out of malice because Mike had rejected HER sexual advances to him.
So don't let's kid ourselves that us girls don't lie about rape; and as for voting, it's not because of feminism - it was because of capitalism that women got the vote.
Hold a job of power? What does that even mean?
What about all the women (and men) who hold jobs of NO power?
Free to express yourself? That's because of democracy and liberalism and NOT because of feminism.
Actually feminism has a long track record of ATTACKING free speech.
But I'd genuinely be interested in your responses to my post on feminism when I finally get time to write it - maybe the weekend? This week has been crazily busy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 10:04:37 GMT -8
I think I'm going to have to post (on a new thread) the reasons why I regard feminism as a creed of hate and as a doctrine that disempowers everyone. As for Cosby, I wouldn't put anything past a so-called celeb but I also know that women lie about rape. As I said, my husband was falsely accused of raping a woman at a time when he was with me and six other friends. The woman concerned made the allegation out of malice because Mike had rejected HER sexual advances to him. So don't let's kid ourselves that us girls don't lie about rape; and as for voting, it's not because of feminism - it was because of capitalism that women got the vote. Hold a job of power? What does that even mean? What about all the women (and men) who hold jobs of NO power? Free to express yourself? That's because of democracy and liberalism and NOT because of feminism. Actually feminism has a long track record of ATTACKING free speech. But I'd genuinely be interested in your responses to my post on feminism when I finally get time to write it - maybe the weekend? This week has been crazily busy! It is my opinion that you are throwing all "feminists" into one horrid category. Feminism and the women that worked hard to get the vote and to begin the battle to be recognized as equal need not be dismissed so quickly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 14:54:09 GMT -8
I think I'm going to have to post (on a new thread) the reasons why I regard feminism as a creed of hate and as a doctrine that disempowers everyone. As for Cosby, I wouldn't put anything past a so-called celeb but I also know that women lie about rape. As I said, my husband was falsely accused of raping a woman at a time when he was with me and six other friends. The woman concerned made the allegation out of malice because Mike had rejected HER sexual advances to him. So don't let's kid ourselves that us girls don't lie about rape; and as for voting, it's not because of feminism - it was because of capitalism that women got the vote. Hold a job of power? What does that even mean? What about all the women (and men) who hold jobs of NO power? Free to express yourself? That's because of democracy and liberalism and NOT because of feminism. Actually feminism has a long track record of ATTACKING free speech. But I'd genuinely be interested in your responses to my post on feminism when I finally get time to write it - maybe the weekend? This week has been crazily busy! It is my opinion that you are throwing all "feminists" into one horrid category. Feminism and the women that worked hard to get the vote and to begin the battle to be recognized as equal need not be dismissed so quickly. The trouble is that the rad fems dominate the movement and they're the ones who've screwed up the law to make it totally unfair. Are there liberal feminists? Yes, and I've got a lot of sympathy for them because the foundation of their approach is liberalism with its respect for freedom, fairness and tolerance. As for equality that's a word that's so loaded and so difficult to define it's almost meaningless. But when I finally get some time I will post a separate thread on how I see feminism. Unfortunately my real life is crazy; not just wife and mum but businesswoman, forum owner, writer and agony aunt for the family - the list goes on! |
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jan 17, 2015 19:25:01 GMT -8
I can't hold this in any longer. Dr. Huxtable rapped me too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 21:32:16 GMT -8
I can't hold this in any longer. Dr. Huxtable rapped me too. Is that some sort of play on words?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:43:11 GMT -8
It is my opinion that you are throwing all "feminists" into one horrid category. Feminism and the women that worked hard to get the vote and to begin the battle to be recognized as equal need not be dismissed so quickly. The trouble is that the rad fems dominate the movement and they're the ones who've screwed up the law to make it totally unfair. Are there liberal feminists? Yes, and I've got a lot of sympathy for them because the foundation of their approach is liberalism with its respect for freedom, fairness and tolerance. As for equality that's a word that's so loaded and so difficult to define it's almost meaningless. But when I finally get some time I will post a separate thread on how I see feminism. Unfortunately my real life is crazy; not just wife and mum but businesswoman, forum owner, writer and agony aunt for the family - the list goes on! When you do have the time, I would be quite interested in reading your views. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 13:48:16 GMT -8
Thank you. I'm sure you'll find they're not at all one-dimensional.
For one thing I find 90% of anti-feminists are right-wing and I'm quite the opposite - always been a rebel!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 9:29:26 GMT -8
Thank you. I'm sure you'll find they're not at all one-dimensional. For one thing I find 90% of anti-feminists are right-wing and I'm quite the opposite - always been a rebel! That is interesting, you rebel! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 9:44:24 GMT -8
Thank you. I'm sure you'll find they're not at all one-dimensional. For one thing I find 90% of anti-feminists are right-wing and I'm quite the opposite - always been a rebel! What a conundrum you are! I believe there is still a need for women to be vigilant in there struggle for equal treatment. There are radicals in every type of social movement. They do not define the movement. |
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Post by Joe The Plumber on Feb 11, 2015 11:26:02 GMT -8
Women are an orinment for a man. tet need to know there plase.and stop opening there mouths.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Feb 11, 2015 11:39:01 GMT -8
My you must be a hit with the ladies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 8:35:03 GMT -8
Women are an orinment for a man. tet need to know there plase.and stop opening there mouths. Is English your second language?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 15:48:11 GMT -8
Women are an orinment for a man. tet need to know there plase.and stop opening there mouths. I know this is picky of me... but... how do you expect the "orinment" women to perform oral sex on their men if they "stop opening there mouths"? |
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Post by ❀rabbit❀ on Feb 15, 2015 21:41:59 GMT -8
I love Bill Cosby, why did everyone wait until he was an old man to come out with these rape allegations. There are plenty of reasons why. Cosby is an icon, a living legend, going up against him would likely mean the end of your career, add to that you would most likely be discredited by people such as yourself who don't wish to believe this horrible accusation could be true. They should have reported him BEFORE he was a living legend, then maybe people such as myself would believe them. |
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Post by ❀rabbit❀ on Feb 15, 2015 21:47:47 GMT -8
![]() Reporting a rapist or your career. Which is more important? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 10:39:32 GMT -8
![]() Reporting a rapist or your career. Which is more important? Well I don't think its that simple. BC is and was a powerful man and going up against him would not have ended well. Plenty of people don't want to believe all these women who have spoken up why would they have believed one aspiring actress? |
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Post by Mister Peepers on Feb 18, 2015 10:40:48 GMT -8
I was invited to his room but never went. Dodged that one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 10:45:15 GMT -8
I was invited to his room but never went. Dodged that one. I think the tricky part was not to drink the kool aid. |
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Post by Mister Peepers on Feb 18, 2015 10:51:10 GMT -8
I'm a Tang man myself. Seems he is too.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Feb 18, 2015 10:51:43 GMT -8
So funny
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 10:53:26 GMT -8
I'm a Tang man myself. Seems he is too. Ah Tang, word of the day. Hmmm; |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 15:27:43 GMT -8
I can understand people being afraid etc, about coming forward with abuses claims, but 30 years?
Jeeeze seems so long to leave it and if you left it that long - my motto is let sleeping dogs lie!
I know everyone differs and it's just my personal opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 17:03:15 GMT -8
With all these attempted rape accusations that are suddenly coming to light... when did the man have an opportunity to be "Bill Cosby: Actor/Comedian"?
ETA: Not that I believe the accusations.
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Post by ❀rabbit❀ on Feb 18, 2015 20:28:35 GMT -8
![]() Reporting a rapist or your career. Which is more important? Well I don't think its that simple. BC is and was a powerful man and going up against him would not have ended well. Plenty of people don't want to believe all these women who have spoken up why would they have believed one aspiring actress? Why wait so long? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 8:57:49 GMT -8
Well I don't think its that simple. BC is and was a powerful man and going up against him would not have ended well. Plenty of people don't want to believe all these women who have spoken up why would they have believed one aspiring actress? Why wait so long? From what I have read, it started with one woman who came forward and then the rest felt came after they realized they were not the only one. Here is a timeline www.vulture.com/2014/09/timeline-of-the-abuse-charges-against-cosby.html |
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Post by ❀rabbit❀ on Feb 19, 2015 20:24:21 GMT -8
All that and no criminal charges against him?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 16:27:40 GMT -8
The time period that accusers have to file charges differs from state to state but generally bar most of Cosby’s accusers from filing criminal charges or civil suits against him because the alleged crimes happened too long ago.
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