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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 14, 2015 13:39:50 GMT -8
And their Holy book is talking to the Muslims. Not ANYONE else. Do you have a point besides the one that rests squarely atop your head? God commands people to slaughter infidels. You can't wriggle your way out of that one, no matter how much you spin it. i don't have to spin ANYTHING. fact is fact. your not liking reality doesn't change it one little bit Right back atcha.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 14, 2015 14:03:09 GMT -8
No matter whose God it is...Gods are insecure little dicks who want people to slughter anyone who believes in something different. Yours or theirs, they're the same. it's your ass, not mine You just proved my point for me. Insecure little dicks who will punish me with eternal hellfire for not bowing and scraping in front of them and singing their praises. If that isn't the very definition of a loving deity, I don't know what is.
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Post by *・°☆. StarLight *・°☆. on Jan 14, 2015 14:04:47 GMT -8
Actually one of my colleague who is French had to criticise the security in France. Especially in public transports.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 15, 2015 10:32:25 GMT -8
Actually one of my colleague who is French had to criticise the security in France. Especially in public transports. it is outright stupid, but, sadly, a lot of countries in europe are not civilized enough to have all of their police armed. this is what happens when a cop doesn't have a gun. obviously, if france was civilized enough so that most of the population was armed, there would have been dead terrorists, but a lot fewer dead humans
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 15, 2015 10:33:37 GMT -8
i don't have to spin ANYTHING. fact is fact. your not liking reality doesn't change it one little bit Right back atcha. since i'm intelligent enough to embrace reality, it doesn't matter to me
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 15, 2015 10:35:27 GMT -8
You just proved my point for me. Insecure little dicks who will punish me with eternal hellfire for not bowing and scraping in front of them and singing their praises. If that isn't the very definition of a loving deity, I don't know what is. the "loving deity" doesn't want you to be punished with eternal hellfire. it's strictly YOUR choice
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 15, 2015 10:55:36 GMT -8
Actually one of my colleague who is French had to criticise the security in France. Especially in public transports. it is outright stupid, but, sadly, a lot of countries in europe are not civilized enough to have all of their police armed. this is what happens when a cop doesn't have a gun. obviously, if france was civilized enough so that most of the population was armed, there would have been dead terrorists, but a lot fewer dead humans If being heavily armed is the hallmark of civilization, then you must think the terrorists are very civilized, indeed.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 15, 2015 10:58:36 GMT -8
You just proved my point for me. Insecure little dicks who will punish me with eternal hellfire for not bowing and scraping in front of them and singing their praises. If that isn't the very definition of a loving deity, I don't know what is. the "loving deity" doesn't want you to be punished with eternal hellfire. it's strictly YOUR choice Right. And I'm the one who is delusional. In any case, it's not a choice. I can't just CHOOSE to believe. You either believe or you don't.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 15, 2015 12:06:14 GMT -8
it is outright stupid, but, sadly, a lot of countries in europe are not civilized enough to have all of their police armed. this is what happens when a cop doesn't have a gun. obviously, if france was civilized enough so that most of the population was armed, there would have been dead terrorists, but a lot fewer dead humans If being heavily armed is the hallmark of civilization, then you must think the terrorists are very civilized, indeed. those short straws just keep breaking off on you. no wonder your ass is sore a civilized society ensures that its citizens can protect themselves. of course, terrorists are NOT heavily armed. all of my neighbors have the same kind, and undoubtedly more, weapons as the terrorists
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 15, 2015 12:07:59 GMT -8
the "loving deity" doesn't want you to be punished with eternal hellfire. it's strictly YOUR choice Right. And I'm the one who is delusional. In any case, it's not a choice. I can't just CHOOSE to believe. You either believe or you don't.
yes, you CAN choose to believe. the rational person would rather believe, and find out that they're wrong, than not believe, and find out they're wrong
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 15, 2015 12:08:55 GMT -8
If being heavily armed is the hallmark of civilization, then you must think the terrorists are very civilized, indeed. those short straws just keep breaking off on you. no wonder your ass is sore a civilized society ensures that its citizens can protect themselves. of course, terrorists are NOT heavily armed. all of my neighbors have the same kind, and undoubtedly more, weapons as the terrorists My ass is sore? I thought you never lied and now your pants are in flames.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2015 2:32:45 GMT -8
those short straws just keep breaking off on you. no wonder your ass is sore a civilized society ensures that its citizens can protect themselves. of course, terrorists are NOT heavily armed. all of my neighbors have the same kind, and undoubtedly more, weapons as the terrorists My ass is sore? I thought you never lied and now your pants are in flames. i NEVER lie. obviously, if your ass is NOT sore from landing on it when all those flimsy straws you keep grasping, perhaps you've learned to wear padding on it
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 17, 2015 9:31:12 GMT -8
Right. And I'm the one who is delusional. In any case, it's not a choice. I can't just CHOOSE to believe. You either believe or you don't.
yes, you CAN choose to believe. the rational person would rather believe, and find out that they're wrong, than not believe, and find out they're wrong Ah, that old chestnut, Pascal's Wager. No, I most certainly can't CHOOSE to believe, as it makes no sense. Belief is simply not a matter of will or choice. Atheism is the inevitable conclusion from all rational information. I can't force myself to believe in leprechauns and fairies, either. Can you? In the face of absent evidence, my blind faith just fell away, rendering me an atheist, not by choice, but because belief is just no longer possible.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2015 11:12:43 GMT -8
yes, you CAN choose to believe. the rational person would rather believe, and find out that they're wrong, than not believe, and find out they're wrong Ah, that old chestnut, Pascal's Wager. No, I most certainly can't CHOOSE to believe, as it makes no sense. Belief is simply not a matter of will or choice. Atheism is the inevitable conclusion form all rational information. I can't force myself to believe in leprechauns and fairies, either. Can you? In the face of absent evidence, my blind faith just fell away, rendering me an atheist, not by choice, but because belief is just no longer possible. that is your CHOICE. your refusing to believe in the wind because you can't see it doesn't keep the leaves from proving that it is there
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 17, 2015 11:24:47 GMT -8
It isn't choice. If someone held a gun to your head and demanded you believe in Spiderman, or he'll shoot, could you choose to believe?
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Post by Falcon on Jan 17, 2015 18:23:40 GMT -8
I feel for the victims' loved ones. And I feel for all people. When these violent acts occur so many agonize over the "why". People are people, period. Regardless of what religion terrorists attempt to justify their violence under and with, the bottom line is it's still people who are committing the maiming and killing. NO, it is NOT. this scum are those who have made the conscious, willful CHOICE to be less than human I do know what point you are trying to make with this comment. The bottom line is these are humans doing what people do. I do wonder though what your definition is of being less than human...considering that all the problems suffered on this earth by the earth and all living things is due to humans.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 18, 2015 2:13:25 GMT -8
NO, it is NOT. this scum are those who have made the conscious, willful CHOICE to be less than human I do know what point you are trying to make with this comment. The bottom line is these are humans doing what people do. I do wonder though what your definition is of being less than human...considering that all the problems suffered on this earth by the earth and all living things is due to humans. there is an absolute standard of behavior for humans. right and wrong are immutable. what was wrong a million years ago, is wrong today, and will be wrong a million years from now. those who willfully CHOOSE to violate that standard are, by definition, less than human
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 18, 2015 9:27:57 GMT -8
I do know what point you are trying to make with this comment. The bottom line is these are humans doing what people do. I do wonder though what your definition is of being less than human...considering that all the problems suffered on this earth by the earth and all living things is due to humans. there is an absolute standard of behavior for humans. right and wrong are immutable. what was wrong a million years ago, is wrong today, and will be wrong a million years from now. those who willfully CHOOSE to violate that standard are, by definition, less than human Because I don't bow and scrape before <insert deity here> I'm less than human? Because I don't communicate telepathically with magical airborne wizards, I don't know right from wrong? You're going to run with that?
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Post by Willing Sniper on Jan 18, 2015 11:03:41 GMT -8
Asinine yet again
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 11, 2016 0:45:17 GMT -8
It isn't choice. If someone held a gun to your head and demanded you believe in Spiderman, or he'll shoot, could you choose to believe? all choicess are not between which dessert to have with dinner. these choices are made all the time. thousands of martyrs died because they made the right choice.
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Post by iamjumbo on Feb 11, 2016 0:49:11 GMT -8
NO, it is NOT. this scum are those who have made the conscious, willful CHOICE to be less than human I do know what point you are trying to make with this comment. The bottom line is these are humans doing what people do. I do wonder though what your definition is of being less than human...considering that all the problems suffered on this earth by the earth and all living things is due to humans. there are moral standards that a homo sapien is required to observe in order to be a humann being.there are moral codes of conduct that must be followed. those who choose not to observe and follow, are obviously less tha human
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 10:19:10 GMT -8
I do know what point you are trying to make with this comment. The bottom line is these are humans doing what people do. I do wonder though what your definition is of being less than human...considering that all the problems suffered on this earth by the earth and all living things is due to humans. there are moral standards that a homo sapien is required to observe in order to be a humann being.there are moral codes of conduct that must be followed. those who choose not to observe and follow, are obviously less tha human Right and just WHO gets to choose those "moral standards" or "moral codes"?
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 22, 2016 0:20:08 GMT -8
there are moral standards that a homo sapien is required to observe in order to be a humann being.there are moral codes of conduct that must be followed. those who choose not to observe and follow, are obviously less tha human Right and just WHO gets to choose those "moral standards" or "moral codes"? obviously, god chose them a million years ago
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Post by Maxx on Apr 22, 2016 6:48:52 GMT -8
Holy chit resurrecting a thread after a year???
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 7:22:22 GMT -8
Right and just WHO gets to choose those "moral standards" or "moral codes"? obviously, god chose them a million years ago "Obviously"...not so obvious to those who are not drinking the kool aid.
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Post by Willing Sniper on Apr 22, 2016 10:06:47 GMT -8
There is no god
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 22, 2016 10:27:00 GMT -8
obviously, god chose them a million years ago "Obviously"...not so obvious to those who are not drinking the kool aid. those who choose to stumble through life with their eyes closed step into the BIG doodoo at the end
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 22, 2016 10:30:03 GMT -8
i believe that i have told you before. the wise man would rather believe, and find out that he is wrong, than to not believe. and find out that he's wrong
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 10:55:34 GMT -8
"Obviously"...not so obvious to those who are not drinking the kool aid. those who choose to stumble through life with their eyes closed step into the BIG doodoo at the end I don't believe that for a second. My personal belief is that we should all try to be the best we can be. Period. Those who are afraid of death, and the finality of it, are the ones who will be sorely disappointed.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 22, 2016 11:13:39 GMT -8
those who choose to stumble through life with their eyes closed step into the BIG doodoo at the end I don't believe that for a second. My personal belief is that we should all try to be the best we can be. Period. Those who are afraid of death, and the finality of it, are the ones who will be sorely disappointed. why should we try to be good at all? those who think that death is the end are the ones who are truly going to be disapointed
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